#[**Spring Has Arrived(Album Contrains Future Novel Spoilers/Teasers)**](https://imgur.com/a/rJoAEBU)
[Spoilers]>!Yes amongst many thing you see in the album as second years they get a new Khounai to join the club, celebrate Oreki’s Birthday, and has a Sports Day Arc!<
**I asked you all to have character themes ready if you want from yesterdays discussion, here is another reminder in case you missed it.**
##**Articles Going Into the Anthology**
u/ubiquitousfellow on Chitanda opening her heart and her way of life to Oreki:
> I think this episode as a whole was about Chitanda showing Oreki her world. She alluded to it last episode when she explained why she couldn’t give him chocolate even though she clearly REALLY wanted to. This episode Oreki feels like a fish out of water. Everyone is running around dealing with a crisis and he’s left sitting alone trying to stay out of the way. When Chitanda asks to see him she wants him to see that she has duties and responsibilities, and having him relay her words to the shrine workers shows him that her family, and therefore herself, has prestige and power. After the festival she talks about how she’ll have to return to take over the family business after university. She doesn’t hate that, but she does feel like she doesn’t have much choice or many options. And she wants Oreki to know all of that because she does like him. She wants him to want to be with her, but she wants him to know what that would mean before he commits to it. And he almost does with what was basically a marriage proposal. Unfortunately he only imagined saying that part, he didn’t say it out loud. That also goes back to what I said a few episodes ago about romance in the show. The romance is about growing together, and filling in each other’s deficiencies. Oreki wants to fill in Chitanda’s deficiency with the business and dealing with other people part of her family business. If he had actually said out loud that she could rely on him for the business parts, it would have been essentially a marriage proposal. And that that scene comes after the parade and festival are wrapped up means that Oreki saw Chitanda’s world like she wanted, and he came out the other side still in love with her.
u/ZapsZzz in the “fake out”
> The funny thing is that if he is the sort of person who would make a dramatic – but ultimately empty – promise like that, he’d not be the introspective, thinking 10 steps ahead sort that would enable him to be what he is like here. Basically, somewhat like a Satoshi or that film arc that props guy who considers himself a smart detective. If that’s a fake out, then you’d be using that term to describe everyone who refused to fall into a trap of heat of the moment.
Another one from ZapsZzz (Honestly too much good points to post.)
> Good prompt. While Chitanda isn’t the scheming sort, she also born and bred in the old money and influence. It will not be lost on her the effect of her talking to only Oreki, and passing on her message via him, who’s there by her invitation, to be by her side while the procession was publicly on display. If we are talking about royalties, the queen’s consort probably comes through that way too…
u/doctahFoX on the ending:
> The one, single moment of joy comes when Hōtarō basically proposes (wait mate, you shouldn’t rush like this), but it actually was all in his head. However, Chitanda has long accepted that this is her destiny, and now the only thing remaining is for Hōtarō to do the step. After all, “it’s spring now”.
> I know that some people find the ending unsatistying and, unlike the polarising reactions to Satoshi yesterday, I can understand why. However, I feel this ending is perfect for Hyouka: Chitanda has finally completely opened to Hōtarō and Hōtarō has finally started to embrace the idea of a rose-coloured life. They have not confessed to each other, but they’re young: in due time they will. This is not an ending for them as much as it is a new beginning, and the final shot of them walking away “into the future” simbolises this. So I understand people wanting more, but I think thematically it fits really well.
u/LeMU_IBF as a source reader gives his take on why the ending is in the anime is so divisive:
> If someone must be blamed, than KyoAni should bear the most share of responsibility as they added too much romance by the use of visuals, music and colors. I recommend everyone take a look at the PV of Hyouka (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIdIvJCTsIk) (please mention this in the anthology! That’s how they promote Hyouka ten years ago) in which Hyouka is described as a “bittersweet tale of youth”. I believe source readers would agree on this description.
##**Final Discussion Questions**
**First Timers:**
1. Thoughts on the series as a whole?
2. Thoughts on the characters?
3. Best Girl?
4. Best Arc?
5. Best Stand Alone Episode?
6. Where do you think the story is going to go from here?
7. How did it compare to your expectations?
**Rewatchers:**
1. Has your opinion changed at all after a Rewatch?
2. What did you notice that you didn’t before?
**Source Readers:**
1. Do you ever think we will ever get a second season?
2. If we do, knowing much of the staff of the original anime is
gone, and that Kyoani likely will not be pickng this series back up. (or Haruhi, Amagi, etc.) Due to not wanting to affiliate with Kadokawa, who would you want to handle it?
3. Should we have a second season?
Hopefully we will see you again next year on another meeting of the Time Honored Classics Club, and perhaps see another meeting in the story put on screen.
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